Saturday, Nov-13-10 Rolling Shots

halo0 wrote:

Phil can you send this picture to Adam Please

........ alright I guess.

halo0 wrote:

Nick we need more Smileys like this

I concur. We should steal all the ones from the mazda forums, I can get you links

grassroots motorsports did a thing about golfs... they did faster times without the rear bar than with a large aftermarket one

xcoldricex wrote:

grassroots motorsports did a thing about golfs... they did faster times without the rear bar than with a large aftermarket one

please explain, was it an R32 or a GTI?

i think it was just a standard golf. it's in the new issue, so you can check it out.

they were doing some myth busting - basically they were just trying to the idea that every setup is different and you have to do it to your specific setup/needs and overarching statements like "putting on a big rear sway bar will help a lot". they did laps with and without a bar and the laps without the bar were actually faster because they were flatter and not tripoding in some of the corners.

that said, i need to read a shitload more about suspension design.

Well close enough D, they did get faster with a rear bar but only by .18 seconds iirc. It was a mk3 2.slow.

The problem I have with that though is, they are on a flat and very smooth driving surface. I am curious how much seat time they have in the GTI. Slow in fast out is deff. not the best policy in that car.

oh i was just scanning it - i thought they actually posted quicker times without.

that said, i do like my big rear bar.

Pretty much anyone who tracks a 3 has upgraded sways because the stock ones are shite.

^ Swaybars are the final balance measure of any car. Factory cars, especially FWD Japanese cars, have been coming with front heavy swaybars for a while. Understeer is safer for terrible drivers, so the idea is that if you're not a terrible driver you can put rear heavy sways on and be happy.

That said, I'll only accept that an adjustable rear bar is better.

Lol I'm going from a hollow 14mm to a solid 27mm rear bar

acedeuce802 wrote:

Lol I'm going from a hollow 14mm to a solid 27mm rear bar

Im actually really excited to see how your car will operate with the new rear bar

Undertaker4 wrote:

halo0 wrote:

Phil can you send this picture to Adam Please

did you send the pic to Adam yet?

sorry mang, was really busy this weekend and then I got food poisoning or something last night and have been laid up on the couch. hey adam is it cool if I send you the pic and you re-edit it? I only edited the size I posted.

yeah thats cool